La Collection Privée

Eau Noire 2004

Eau Noire by Dior
Bottle Design Hedi Slimane
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7.2 / 10 276 Ratings
A perfume by Dior for women and men, released in 2004. The scent is spicy. The longevity is above-average. It is being marketed by LVMH.
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Main accords

Spicy
Green
Woody
Gourmand
Sweet

Fragrance Pyramid

Top Notes Top Notes
White thymeWhite thyme Clary sageClary sage
Heart Notes Heart Notes
LavenderLavender Virginia cedarVirginia cedar
Base Notes Base Notes
LiquoriceLiquorice VanillaVanilla Green stemsGreen stems

Perfumer

Ratings
Scent
7.2276 Ratings
Longevity
8.2214 Ratings
Sillage
7.4210 Ratings
Bottle
8.2207 Ratings
Value for money
6.171 Ratings
Submitted by Sani, last update on 17.04.2024.
Interesting Facts
The fragrance is part of the "La Collection Privée" collection.

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14 in-depth fragrance descriptions
Intersport

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Intersport
Intersport
Top Review 23  
Eau(x) Noire(s) - I was dreaming..
I would never have dreamed of writing a commentary on Eau Noire, a lot of informative things have been said about this Dior neo-classic, and on top of that Eau Noire had a real shadowy existence for years: at times only available in France (better centralized in Paris, more precisely Avenue Montaigne) on demand in the store, quasi under the counter, then at times only in the French online shop, etc., etc., etc., etc. Online store, etc. - in short, it was to be found, but not obviously. This was to change with the appointment of Francis Kurkdjian, the former creator of Eau Noire, as the new house perfumer chez Dior. Eau Noire is back, albeit more as a marketing strategy (it's LVMH), and this time also 'fully' in the program for the time being, en France and everywhere.

Eau Noire originally had an extremely original, even amusing raison d'être. Even before Dior went all-out with the Privée range and left no stone unturned on which Monsieur Dior had at some point sat, leaned or rested to dedicate a fragrance, three fragrances appeared with the hiring of fashion designer Hedi Slimane, at that time still quite Americanistically labeled as cologne, the most extraordinary of which was Eau Noire. Hedi, it was quoted, had already dreamed the fragrance in his youth, so the perfume happened to him in a dream, passively, like Karl Valentin or the many examples of artistic intuition via dream induction, the dream as a productive state of consciousness, from the earliest shamanistic rituals to the measurement of the senses and mapping of the subconscious in the 19th century, Hedi, yes, came up with the composition of Eau Noire in his sleep, Francis then had to realize the whole thing or better: interpret it.

Eau Noire was a fragrance with character, far more striking than the Cologne Blanche or the popular Bois d'Argent, which appeared at the same time, and it was above all the first designer fragrance since Goutal's Immortelle Ode Sables (1985) to be so bluntly dedicated to this ingredient. I also suspect that the latter had far more influence on Eau Noire than the reverie, the fragrances of such specialized author:interior perfume houses, such as Annick Goutal, were more highly regarded in the fashion industry with their appreciation of craftsmanship, savon-faire, etc., than fragrances of the designer competition. Yet Eau Noire has always been more of a multi-faceted darkened lavender with bouquet garni decor and licorice/immortelle framing than a pure-bred immortelle eau.

Nevertheless, when the French Nez magazine published a small booklet dedicated entirely to Immortelle in 2022, I was particularly curious about the 'Genealogy' section - a neatly researched chronological overview of an 'ingredient', depending on the author. For me, the Immortelle genealogy was rather patchy, almost sloppy. It was also surprising that Eau Noire of all fragrances was not included, but when I asked Kurkdjian and Dior, they allegedly denied any active involvement of Immortelle in Eau Noire. Yes, you read that right: Eau Noire, Immortelle, mais non! It can happen that fast.

Of course, there are ways to create an immortelle note without using natural immortelle extracts, but it seems to me that the narrative of a fragrance is (retrospectively?) polished by the manufacturer with supposed notes. Even though, under LVMH, even the former nonchalance house Givenchy briefly had an "Immortelle fragrance" in its program with Immortelle Tribal (2015) that was stripped down to insignificance - the idiosyncratic note probably fits so poorly into the Dior world at the moment that this neo lavender classic has to make do without it altogether.

A few months after the publication of the booklet, Eau Noire reappeared in the Dior portfolio, first in a set with Cologne Blanche and Bois d'Argent - quasi as a reminiscence of Kurkdjian's attitude. Even though the press release stated that Eau Noire was back in its original form, this is probably the version that is furthest removed from the original version.

Gone are the days of the added green colorant (cosmetic greenwashing?) that gave the fragrance a certain darkness, but also gone are the days of a clear immortelle note. This has been toned down here, shifted more in the direction of licorice or rather not fully processed licorice (Ellena's Brin de Réglisse (2007) sends its regards) and the fragrance appears more airy, more transparent, but also smoother, especially in the first few hours. An effective and slightly artificial note of dryness, which I also encountered more strongly in Le Couvent's Sperone (2023), or even more strongly in Ganymede Extrait (2023), noticeably clears up the formerly dark Eau Noire. Admittedly, Eau Noire by Dior is neither Couvent's landscape idyll nor Bisch's showmanship, fortunately this note fades and with time Eau Noire approaches the profile of earlier versions again, only smoother overall. But perhaps this is exactly what makes the greatness of mediocre reformulations: the fragrance is recognized in its entirety, which is also the case here, but the devil is in the details... Thanks to Dior's indication of the 'formulation number', these are also quite easy to recognize - in addition to the original 'Cologne', ironically the strongest version, I know at least two eau de parfum versions that differ slightly in color and smell, but were still closer to the first version than the 2023 vintage. For the time being, it seems, the shape of the old Eau Noire remains a dream.
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Amadea70

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Amadea70
Top Review 17  
My name is not Gerhard Schröder
They say he never passes a currywurst stand without eating one. And when you think of VW, I think of currywurst. Yes, the Brioni chancellor loves not only the rolling rouble and smart suits, but also plain currywurst. At Gazprom it's compulsory in the canteens. The best currywurst is said to be in Berlin, long queues at Currywurst 36 will surely confirm that. Although Kreuzberg certainly has more to offer. Carnival of Cultures for example, the beautiful old market hall.......but we were talking about Currywurst and I don't want to digress. Very important for a good curry sauce should be Cola.

Does Eau Noire smell like currywurst now? Yep.Schallhörer described it in great detail and you should read that if you want to know exactly. I agree with him.
I only get a curry feeling when I press my nose directly into the sprayed area, a few inches away and it's spicy rather than curry-heavy. A nice coffee scent that starts herbaceous lavender, spicy, with licorice. Sage and thyme push, the cedar is hard to distinguish from the licorice. Bissi similar to Play Intense, in terms of coffee, and then but with licorice.

Do I want to smell like that? Rather not, but I find him great made.
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7
Sillage
8
Longevity
8
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MissChippie

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MissChippie
Very helpful Review 10  
For the weed garden...stars are better
Hello you dear fragrance noses,

today I dedicate times this special, often misunderstood, green Wässerchen a review.

Longer Soultalk or just scroll down to the 1st mention of the perfume Eau Noire in the text.
Enjoy reading:

Once many years ago, my pride and joy was a wildly cultivated allotment garden.
After the end of work I made myself immediately with the wheel, on the way there.
In my garden everything was allowed to grow, which had a use for me, also various wild herbs I left room. Were they but very useful to me, even if sometimes only their scent. Gundermann...my love.

At that time these wild plants called those ignorant, still weeds. Meanwhile, fortunately, the term wild herbs is familiar to all.
In my little paradise, everything grew as it wanted. Every piece of earth was covered.
Here grew among other things lavender, thistles, wild spurge, sage, fennel, thyme next to nettles, dandelion, wild Dost and dog roses and over there garlic rue, bear's garlic, Gundermann next to meadowsweet and valerian in the penumbra.

My very special pride, although only half wild, was an Immortellen shrub. This had "survived" in the meager garden, when I took it over, beside all the wild herbs as one of the few plants.
Had my predecessor probably not a particularly green thumb.
And so I peppelte this small Currystrauch and the other remaining wild plants with much love again.

For many others, most of my garden was just weeds and a wild mess that even scared them: "Could but the seeds, the "weeds" fly into their garden and contaminate him..."

I loved my weed garden, as I called him affectionately, as he was very.
I gave nature a lot of space in my garden, because she also gave me a space to be with this garden.

It was most beautiful when the sun went down, everything became quieter and the shadow of the night a dark green veil over the apparent but beautiful mess of my garden, laid.

This mess under this dark green veil, smelled after watering on a hot summer day, just wonderful spicy-sweet and earthy-green.
I smelled the sweet-sour-spicy scent of the curry bush (immortelle) paired with the perfume-like woody-spicy scent of lavender and the sweet vanilla-like jasmine from the neighbor's garden, and many more spicy-herbaceous-sweet nuances.

This whole mess of different green scents was just magical, let me breathe deeply, gave me contentment and security.

I felt at one with nature...

I unfortunately had to give up my garden for private reasons.

Remained to me is a borrowed but well-founded herbs and plants and the love for fragrant herbs and woody plants, which I can now revive with the help of perfumes.

Eau Noire is one of them.

In Eau Noire I smell a wild, herbaceous, woody and damp garden at night.

Eau Noire is a fragrance that scores over its sillage. It is not a fragrance that you smell directly, unless you just want to inhale the full load of immortelle. Why not ...?

Best of all, this scent comes into its own in the tail.
For this reason, I like to spray me Eau Noire in the neck, on the back or the back of the knees. So blows me, half a day, with every movement the delicate scent of immortelle, lavender and green vanilla.

"I'm so glad to have found you again, my dear, wild weed garden at night. Your dark green soul enclosed in a wonderful 'water of the night'."

"Even though you will not be with me for long, dear "black water", as you have sadly been discontinued, I enjoy every hour with you, remembering the beautiful times in my weed garden."

"Only at night do dreams come true
Because the moonlight stars stand better
At night we have a dream
And we make plans to live it"
(By Night/Beginner)

Thank you for the testing opportunity, dear Parfumo Ripley.

Dark green greetings
Your MissChippie
14 Comments
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7
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8
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8.5
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Schallhoerer

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Schallhoerer
Schallhoerer
7  
Is there a liquorice in the Starbucks
The Eau Noire was released in 2004 and comes as one of the few fragrances of the Privee series not from Francois Demachy, but from Francis Kurkdjian, who of course you will know through his own fragrance house "Maison Francis Kurkdjian".

I would describe Eau Noire thereby as spicy-aromatic. On the Internet, the fragrance is rather called spicy-gourmand. The Gourmand aspects, however, I can not quite understand here.

If you look at the fragrance notes now, you could already have a premonition with vanilla and licorice that it could go in the direction of gourmand. But the most prominent notes for my nose are the lavender, the strawflower (which is not listed in the official notes) and the licorice. For me, though, Eau Noire is ostensibly one thing. And that is an outstandingly good coffee scent, which thereby connected the lavender quite clearly in the foreground. In the opening we have here a slightly sweet coffee, which is cleverly set off by all sorts of spices. Many are smelling Eau Noire for the first time and directly associate the smell of the strawflower with the smell of curry. While I can understand that association, nothing here smells to me like a typical curry dish like you'd get from Indian. The spices give the fragrance just in the opening a few edges and let the coffee thereby not stand alone and not too sweet.

Compared to the vetiver, the coffee here but not like earthy coffee grounds but already more like a dark, brewed coffee with a pinch of sugar. In the course of the fragrance, the coffee is then but thicker, syrupy and you could figuratively see the spoon stuck in the coffee. The sweetness increases a bit, but is still well balanced by the spices. Once the licorice has completely spread, the coffee aroma recedes a bit and makes way for that slightly sweet medicinal smell of the licorice with its aniseed note. So the fragrance then also sounds out over time.

The performance is at 10 hours and only after 2-3 hours, the fragrance slowly becomes skin. It is thereby not a screamer that bothers people but a potent fragrance that is pleasant in the air.

So here we have a not too sweet coffee scent, with nice spice and syrupy drydown, which can play its advantages perfectly, especially in the cold season. The fragrance is warming, soothing and simply a pleasure in cold weather.
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7.5
Bottle
7.5
Sillage
10
Longevity
9
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Insense

25 Reviews
Insense
Insense
5  
Neither an "eau" nor "noire"
In fact, this is not just a cologne. And the concept of noir is a puzzling one, after so different takes by many perfumers (TF Noir de Noir: rose oud; Bvlgari Black: leathery black tea...which noir will be mine? Probably not one with the name on it).
This has an enormous longevity and suits me much better in a winter cold day. Why? Because of its warmness and full character, given by the immortelle.
Actually that note is one of my preferred, and as in AG Sables or more subtly in HdP 1740, immortelle plays the main role here.
Francis Kurkdjian made a twist with lavender, and it became a bonbon. Eat one, two would get you sick.
My immortelle remains 1740, the most masculine of the three, more leathery. But the sweetness of this one is very comforting also. I’ll wear 1740 when I feel a bad boy, and Eau Noire or Sables when I am a good boy (not so often, I know!)
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JoloJolo 4 months ago
7
Sillage
8
Longevity
8
Scent
My best aromatic fragrance: rich, dark, green, sweet.
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Jbl775Jbl775 8 months ago
10
Bottle
8
Sillage
8
Longevity
9
Scent
Smells like Dracula on a misty winter morning. One of the best and most unique Diors.
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ItchynoseItchynose 1 year ago
6.5
Scent
Herbal gourmand is an interesting idea but this sweet and spicy mix of lavender and liquorice has not won me over.
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ExxellenceExxellence 4 years ago
9
Bottle
9
Sillage
9
Longevity
9
Scent
Sublime lavender.
Elegant, strong, masculine, sophisticated, warm, dark, deep, soft, sweet and bitter.
A true Masterpiece.
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