Echt Kölnisch Wasser 1792 Eau de Cologne

Echt Kölnisch Wasser (Eau de Cologne) by 4711
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Echt Kölnisch Wasser (Eau de Cologne) is a perfume by 4711 for women and men and was released in 1792. The scent is fresh-citrusy. It is being marketed by Mäurer & Wirtz. Pronunciation
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Fragrance Notes

Top Notes Top NotesBergamotBergamot
OrangeOrange
LemonLemon
Heart Notes Heart NotesLavenderLavender
RosemaryRosemary
Base Notes Base NotesNeroliNeroli

Ratings

Scent

6.7601 Ratings

Longevity

4.0503 Ratings

Sillage

4.3484 Ratings

Bottle

7.1513 Ratings

Value for money

8.460 Ratings
Submitted by DonVanVliet, last update on 28.07.2021.

Interesting Facts

"Original Eau de Cologne" goes back to a special mixture, the 1709 "Aqua Mirabilis”. Johann Maria Farina, an Italian immigrant to Cologne stood behind the original recipe. Soon there were other "Eau de Colognes", that used the name "Farina” and Farina had to fight against plagiarism. With Georg Mühlens, who issued one of these 1792, there was a long-running dispute. Eventually the product´s name was changed in "4711 - Eau de Cologne". Until today, both companies produce their fragrances. "Farina Gegenüber" states to use the old original recipe from over 300 years ago.

When Napoleon had occupied Cologne, he enumerated all the houses. The house in the Street "Glockengasse", where Georg Mühlens resided in, got the number 4711. Still today on some gift packs, there is the drawing of a uniformed cavalier, writing the number on the wall with chalk. The bell ("Glockengasse" means "alley of bells") is still shown in the logo.
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Tofuwachtel
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Top Review    47  
Common ground
Lotti and Irmi. Sisters. They grew up in Silesia. Lotti became a seamstress and a milliner. Irmi took over her parents' flower stall at the market.

After months of trekking, and they and the horses were simply too exhausted to move on, they were assigned a room with a war widow in a small northern German town. Welcome, they were not there.

That changed only after Lotti began to sew clothes from old uniforms, sheets and blankets. So slowly she made a name for herself in the place with that. Especially since she also took on any kind of alterations. It wasn't long before Irmi had traded an old sewing machine for Lotti on the black market. She had given her earrings for it.

In general, the sisters could not have been more different.

Lotti was always elegantly dressed. Costume, preferably in a shade of yellow, matching hat, gloves. Even in the summer. Irmi loved her old trousers and the washed-out green yoke she had worn in the beginning when working in the fields, which she had taken on with a farmer. One graceful and small, the other tall and stout.

Only two things, they both had in common. Their almost water-blue eyes and a fondness for 4711.

After Lotti opened a small tailor shop and also started making hats again, the two of them moved into a tiny cottage.

The smell when you entered, I'll never forget it. Everywhere in the small rooms were small bowls, in which small cotton balls lay. These were regularly soaked with the cologne.

This tangy fresh, a very little bit bitter note of orange and lemon, this fine herbaceous spice, the slight hint of lavender, embraced a summer as winter.
And they always smelled of it, too. Lotti always put a few spritzes on her handkerchief and then dabbed her forehead and neck. Irmi was less complicated. She would take the bottle and put a few drops on her décolleté. And if then only a soft reverberation on the skin lay, was immediately nachgelegt.

When I visited them as a child, my chocolate mouth was wiped with it, if I had an abrasion it was used to clean the wound and I think they also used it as a mouthwash additive. In any case, a good shot of it was always put in the little bowl of ironing water.

That was a long time ago, but when I smell the scent today, refreshing myself with it in the summer, it's an incredibly nice feeling. And then there are somewhere also Lotti and Irmi.
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LibraryGhost
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Less helpful Review    5  
Super fragrance for summer and an all-rounder
It's a shame that this scent is labeled as a "grandma/grandpa scent". I myself am 28 and wear the fragrance super happy in the summer. He is just so versatile, you can use it as a disinfectant, you get ballpoint pen stains from clothes out with it, he helps against headaches, he helps to relax.
Just great! :)
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Top Review    28  
A little more respect, please, or childhood air conditioning
In the early 70s, my family traveled either in the express train pulled by a class 110 or in the Beetle 1302. The summers were hot and air conditioning did not yet exist, neither in the Beetle nor in the 2nd class of the Deutsche Bundesbahn. Open windows and damp towels were our air conditioning systems. And just 4711. In our case mostly in the form of refreshing towels. And that worked! In truth, it was probably just the evaporating alcohol that provided short-term cooling on the skin, but does that matter? One uncle used it as an aftershave.

I read with disgust today that some people want to measure this perfume against perfumes. Also the unspeakable expression "Omaduft" is to be found again and again. Dear people, occupy yourselves nevertheless times with the history of the Kölnisch Wasser! In fact, in its absolute heyday, cologne was the dominant men's fragrance, used by Louis XV, Napoleon, Mozart, Voltaire, and Goethe.

To describe the fragrance would be like carrying owls to Athens. Nope, I don't see it! Who is so ignorant not to know 4711, has actually lost here nothing - sorry for the clear words. Surely you don't have to know every fragrance and surely you don't have to like 4711 - but you should respect it as one of the oldest "perfumes" in the world. The Turkish offshoot Kolonya even served as a disinfectant in Corona times. So a little more respect, please!
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Green refreshment
A real classic. It smells slightly citric and also green/mossy. I like the fact that it somehow reminds me of a dewy meadow. It is recommended if you like the aroma of citrus fruits and/or green scents (plants)
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HIRH
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Top Review    19  
Refreshments?
One knows the situation of the last days and weeks: It feels hotter than ever, the beads of sweat are on your forehead. The fan hastily ordered from Amazon does not help. Buy an air conditioning unit? Too expensive for the three warm weeks per year in Germany! One surrenders to the suffering of the heat, collectively.

Except for a small Cologne-Gallic village called 4711, which waits patiently at the sink to give the wearer the freshness he sought in vain. The scented water absorbs the drops of sweat and cools the forehead. The citric Neroli freshness teleports the brain to the Italian Riviera, where the current temperatures are not considered disturbingly hot, but desirable.

As cologne, the fragrance - in contrast to what the local fragrance pyramid would suggest - only offers top notes. The scent vanishes after a short time. And it should and that is a good thing. This water is for the wearer, not for his environment. The price makes more frequent application throughout the day. And shouldn't this fragrance refresh? Can't it do it much better if it offers the refreshment opportunity several times a day? It is suitable for superimposing on any fragrance that you want to add a fresh start.

A small suggestion at this point: You've also wondered how expensive disinfectant can be these days? The alcohol concentration of 'm Echt Kölnisch Wasser is comparable. So is the price. But Echt Kölnisch Wasser smells good and provides refreshment. Disinfectant only disinfects. Why not use Genuine Cologne Water as a disinfectant with style? I can't think of anything that speaks against it!

A classic that reinterpreted disinfectants without knowing it.

Buy the summer wonder water. It's very cheap. And replace Tom Ford's neroli Portofino.

Cheers
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Top Review    22  
Super for summer heat
Everything above 25°C is actually already too much for me, I am clearly not the summer type. I much prefer the late summer with pleasantly mild warmth. But summer is summer and if it's just raining and cool - that's not really nice. And you can stay in the house over lunchtime. Unfortunately, my circulation often gets a bit tired when it's warm, no matter how much I drink. And I don't really like wearing perfume above 25°C. But there's nothing without it, such a pleasant scent in the nose is just something fine. *g* Yes, I am a little difficult with warmth...

Good old 4711, on the other hand, is a fragrance for me that was created for these temperatures. At least as far as I'm concerned. I don't associate it with childhood trauma, none of my ancestors wore it. So I can approach the fragrance quite unselfconsciously. Okay, I associate it with refreshing tissues, but even that is nothing bad for me.

I smell bergamot the strongest at the beginning, plus a little lavender. Orange comes after a few minutes and a very little bit of lemon. Just so much that it doesn't bother me, I'm not a lemon fan of scents. And neroli, which I actually smell from the beginning. The whole thing lasts about 15, max. 30 minutes. no longer than that. And also quite discreet, you can be generous here without risking an overdose. The splash bottle doesn't bother me either, because I like to pour a larger amount into my hand and distribute it. If after an hour I can't perceive any more of it, I'm happy to repeat it again. Although the scent on the clothes lasts a little longer.

I don't feel it hard and scratchy, nor soft. Keeps you refreshing in the heat, which is the sense of an EdC for me.

Of course, there are also more expensive EdC, but to what extent the steep surcharge is worthwhile here, everyone must decide for himself. I for one will stay with good old 4711 for the summer.
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Fahrstuhlman
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Helpful Review    6  
Nostalgia and freshness
Especially in summer I find "4711" a wonderful and refreshing fragrance, which brings a wonderful breeze of refreshment especially on especially hot days. That is why I love it!
Of course this water is not something "unique", but its refreshing effect has been in homes all over the world for centuries. For me it is simply timeless and therefore always wearable. That there is no lavish durability ... what the heck! My primary concern is a short refreshment and not to tell everyone around me that I have just applied a fragrance. This is exactly where its strength lies. As I think, it doesn't rub off and doesn't apply thickly, but it is nevertheless reservedly conspicuous ;)
When I hold the bottle in my hands, I feel like I'm transported to another time. The classic motif and the unmistakable font remind me of the early 19th century and I like to let my thoughts wander back to that time, which is reflected in numerous illustrations, books and paintings before my inner eye.
In short: a classic, which is a useful companion in every situation, time of day and for every age.
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Top Review    16  
Curious cocktail
The prelude: fresh, hissing, lemony! Unfortunately, I find this classic then afterwards to be musty and smelling old. During an almost unbearably hot summer, I nevertheless gladly accepted the musty smell developing on my skin, as I could no longer tolerate my usual scents. I always put the bottle in the fridge, which was always a great refreshment :-) I could have drunk this stuff......wait a minute, would that work? Citric oils and alcohol were not poisonous, were they? Neither was lavender. After some research it turned out that until Napoleon's times this water was also taken in former times. But I did not want to try 4711 pure, not even diluted with wine! Then I found it on the Internet. Some Cologne bars are said to mix the following cocktail: Danziger Goldwasser (what on earth is that?), Blue Curacao, Vodka, a dash of 4711, topped up with sparkling wine. Yummy!

I got incredibly thirsty, but I was (and am) also a real coward. What if that was poisonous? That would really be a rather inglorious end!

I took heart and asked 4711 :D

4711 was pleased with my interest, but they strongly advised me against my project! They also did not want to know about this alleged "blue-gold cocktail". 4711 is exclusively for external use!

Shredded, I enjoy a whisky and am grateful to have escaped with my life once again
Cheers
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Top Review    58  
Colonia instead of Corona. No. 2: Ristretto.
What better proof is there for my thesis expressed in No. 1 that epidemic periods are suitable for cologne than the fact that this is the third 4711 commentary in one week and the fifth in two months? Before that, there were six months of rest. The stuff is definitely in full swing, the times inspire to colognate (sometimes maybe with the detour via perspiration).

If the "Classique" of Alpa is a soft-ground bergamot, 4711 is a full-on-face bergamot, with plenty of lemon that can be felt cleanly. 4711 has an uncompromising citric hardness and sharpness that is almost metallic cutting. In this beginning lies the unmistakable sound of 4711 that no other fragrance in the world has.

This makes this fragrance a real freshness shot. If it were coffee, it would be espresso ristretto doppio. Made from 100% Robusta beans. With maximum roasting degree. Boiling hot. This makes 4711 a real anti-perfume. It has nothing voluptuous, soft, not from "I make myself beautiful and have a good time".

Therefore, 4711 was always possible even in the times and with the target groups where a perfume did not work. Perfume? That's for women. I'm a man. It's for Frenchmen, I'm German. It's for young women, I'm already 40. It's for happy people. I'm a widow. It's for Saturday at the most, for fun and games. But it's a working day and I'm working. Or Sunday and I'm in church. Yeah, perfume doesn't work there. But 4711, that's different. It's always possible. It's a real thing. A medicine. A tool Like Odol for bad breath. Like rubbing alcohol for sore muscles. Like the spirit of Melissa for catarrh
This is all true, and because of the hardness and almost uncomfortable speed of this fragrance, it is still suitable for situations in which the environment would perhaps ask for a "real" perfume: Is he/she still got it all? NOW have nothing better to do than to put on a perfume?? 4711 the firefighter can also dab himself on the burning house during a major operation. Or the Corona doctor during a short break from intensive care. And that's when 4711 might be the best choice, because it works immediately, it stimulates and wakes you up.

But a very, very little bit, this "4711 is not a perfume!" was also always a cunning self-deception and camouflage to the environment. 4711 is not pure lemon water that you could use to wipe out the fridge. The herbs and the lavender in the heart (as far as one wants to postulate a classic course here at all) give it a somehow noble character and stability, and yes, yes, in the base, which starts after 15 minutes, there is something tender, fine, soft, hardly noticeable, but it is there. No vanilla, no jasmine, but still a delicately flowery neroli. And with that, it's a bit of perfume.

I really like 4711. And even though I don't give top marks to either the fragrance or the bottle, I hope that both will continue to exist in exactly the same form, without any changes, for a long time to come!

That was the scent commentary, and now some afterthoughts (corona-free, but omah-containing):

4711 is constantly perceived as "omega scent". And, not identical, but related to it, it is associated with "humiliating" scenes in which, as small children, we were wiped with handkerchiefs soaked with 4711 to wipe our cocoa mouth or bloody knee, which we found stupid. Why does the grandmother beg us so, we are big and strong after all.

Of course I do not condemn anyone who feels this way and who therefore categorically rejects 4711. Nevertheless, I think one should reflect on such rejection. In any case, I do not share it for me personally
For us perfume users "in the best years" (today's age 40 to 60), 4711 is clearly already somehow a granny fragrance. Because the generation of our grandmothers used 4711 a lot. In their youth there was Hitler and war, and when it was over, they were often widows, rape victims, wrecked women. And then it was time to rebuild an ideal world with home movies. That was not the time of Chanel No. 5, that was the time of 4711. And then they were old and stayed with 4711. So, is there something wrong with that? Is that why you have to turn down 4711? Okay, of course there were also really bad grandmas. If you had one of those, you might not really want to be reminded of them via 4711. My grandmas had their abysses and their strange sides, but all in all they were not wrong. And they were good to me anyway. And that they were 4711-grandmothers and not Mitsouko-grandmothers has reasons that you can look at with compassion rather than reluctance.

And as for the other thing: I think that if the wife or husband wipes your mouth without asking for permission, that is, as long as you are not senile, in any case, inappropriate begging. For parents and grandparents it is part of the job description. From their point of view it is (was?) an expression of love and of not letting the child run around with a drooling mouth. Part of the child's job description is to find the child stupid. And to the job description of the adult child, to have become more mature and to see the wiping rage of parents and grandmothers in a milder, maybe even now tender light.

And then a convent woman, Melissa spirit!
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Eriele
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Reminders
Because of the many positive reviews and because I like the remix series very much and especially the 2020 fragrance, I tested the great-grandmother. I had my reservations, because the classic 4711 is nightmarishly still in my memory from the 60s. Grandma and mother always had the bottle in their handbag and the all-round genius 4711 was always used. There was nothing that was not treated with it.

On the tour to the Drachenfels as a disinfection for the open knee, because once again I had not paid attention to the path. A short time later I used it to rub the blood stains from the white knee socks and the grease stain from the bratwurst from the white pleated skirt. Then I got some ice cream and to make sure that I was able to go home clean, I cleaned my hands and mouth with a 4711 handkerchief. Also a wet washcloth in a plastic bag or a lunch box and Lavex tissues belonged in a ladies handbag.

Years and decades passed and thanks to my uncle, who ran a wholesale hairdressing business, I was introduced to the world of fragrances beyond 4711, thank God.

So now the encounter with the past and that was a shocker for me. I had expected a reformulation. Perhaps it is. But unfortunately, nothing for my nose. The beginning was exhausting, but musty and like toilet stone with strong lemon and bergamot with a trace of sweat. In the meantime I have made the experience that even fresh onions can smell of sweat. After this not at all fresh Wummser then lavender and rosemary. On my skin and in this warm weather an unpleasant thing. Later I add neroli or something else. I cannot describe it so exactly. Only just stuffy with a strange undertone, which does not suit me. Freshness unfortunately missing. Fortunately also only of an extremely short durability of max. 30 minutes. Then the spook was over, thank God. I'm glad I didn't make a blind purchase.

Memories of the old fragrance now remain memories for me. An empty mini-bottle, as it was given as a sample at that time, remains in the cupboard - a pity, I would have liked to give the fragrance a chance after all these years. I rather confess to the remix series now
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Topfpflanze3Topfpflanze3 3 months ago
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Personally I find it very refreshing, however I would never dare to wear it as its the typical grandma smell
ElysiumElysium 1 year ago
An agreeable eau de cologne full of citrus peels and blossoms, ideal for springtime and all those days you feel in the mood for going easy.
SergioTSergioT 2 years ago
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The original cologne. Beautiful citrus fragrance. Airy and weak. Great for the hot weather. I wear it with a white t-shirt.
Carlitos01Carlitos01 2 years ago
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An old and proven recipe: Citrus and Neroli. As long as you don't mind the low performance, you can not go wrong.
Recommended!
AnasaliAnasali 2 years ago
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this is a nice citrus cologne , refreshing and cold the sad thing is that it fades away really fast .
AmberScentAmberScent 2 years ago
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Old faithful! Magnificent Citrus & Neroli. As Carly Simon sung: "And nobody does it better, Though sometimes I wish someone could"...
AkinnenAkinnen 2 years ago
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I love the scent and the design of the bottles, everything is excellent except it doesn't last. If you like citric notes for quick refresh.
ItchynoseItchynose 2 years ago
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A timeless classic: citrus, lavender and neroli blending into a fresh, uplifting and short lived cologne. Beauty in simplicity.
JoaoMartinsJoaoMartins 3 years ago
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Lasts 20 minutes but smells rather nice.
CarlosspCarlossp 4 years ago
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It is a classic colony but not power, citrus and lavender, you have to be generous pouring amount, but essential in a wardrobe of perfumes.

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