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Fils de joie 2020

Fils de joie by Serge Lutens
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A perfume by Serge Lutens for women and men, released in 2020. The scent is floral-sweet. Projection and longevity are above-average. It is being marketed by Shiseido Group / Beauté Prestige International.
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Main accords

Floral
Sweet
Spicy
Animal
Oriental

Fragrance Notes

JasmineJasmine MuskMusk CivetCivet
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7.4114 Ratings
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8.595 Ratings
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8.193 Ratings
Bottle
8.288 Ratings
Value for money
7.449 Ratings
Submitted by ExUser, last update on 22.04.2024.
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The fragrance is part of the "Collection Noire" collection.

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Intersport

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Top Review 16  
də ʒwa / də bwa (At night at the crossroads II)
As a non-native speaker, it's easy for me to claim that Fils de Joie [fis də ʒwa] and Miel de Bois [mjɛl də bwa] (2005) have some phonetic similarities, and 'bois' or 'de bois' has been Lutens' basic vocabulary since the beginning, but with Fils de Joie, the now discontinued Miel de Bois kept coming to mind.

At first glance, everything is different: Fils de Joie is all about the so-called night-flowering jasmine (Cestrum nocturnum). also often, if not exclusively, called 'Lady of the Night' (which in turn may allude to other things that could also be understood under Fils de Joie), a plant that from a few meters away also visually resembles jasmine species, and also has a similarly beguiling scent, which then comes across a little more powerful, sweeter - at least so with the perennials I am familiar with.

With this perceived jasmine relationship, Fils de Joie ties in internally with À la nuit (2000) and Sarrasins (2007), Lutens often worked in groups of three (such as Encens et Lavande (1996), Gris Clair (2006/2019), Fourreau noir (2009) with lavender, or Santal de Mysore (1997), Santal Blanc (2001), Santal majuscule (2012) with sandalwood and many more). À la nuit's specialty was its jasmine cuvée: a blend of three extracts of different varieties, from Moroccan, Egyptian and Indian, plus greens, spices and light honey: even if the Lutens company has for some time - apparently to simplify things - only spoken of jasmine here; until recently, these details were also noted in the database, which has been updated here sometimes too obsessively obediently and too short-sightedly.

On closer inspection, however, Fils de Joie seems to be more of a cross between in-house species than the formal completion of a trilogy: minimal shades of indolic jasmine are confronted here with the sour, animalic honey note from Miel de Bois. The opening could be accused of a short-lived camphor-clove nuance, another Sheldrake specialty as played out in Tuberose Criminelle (1998), for example, but this has to give way more or less immediately to a quite realistic night-blooming jasmine note, which will successively wrestle with a honey accord. The combination may sound almost too much - and it probably is, but it is somehow coherent. The good old Miel de Bois seems almost restrained, formal, even decent in comparison - newer honey/wax fragrances such as Bois Lumière (2014) or Bee (2019) certainly have much more oomph, but Miel de Bois remains a fragrance that appealed to me because of its duality of minimally suggestive honey and accurate, dry woody notes.

The actual transformation of this nocturnal honey construction is due to the musk notes, which are maximally functional here - certainly no longer laundry room but not quite bold either - the small but potent flowers of Cestrum nocturnum are multiplied kaleidoscopically, there seems to be no end in sight, the honey note is overflowing, pleasure multiplication or excess, the musk puffs up these facets, and even if Fils de Joie has changed after hours into something more close to the skin - the fragrance is never really close to the skin - the persistence is terrifying - in other words: i can get by with one spritz for a very long time...

The bushy À la nuit or the dry, sweet and sour Miel de Bois remain the more interesting fragrances - especially in the context/time of their respective release; the nocturnal crossover, də ʒw / də bwa is nevertheless a successful pile-up.
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Nushka

24 Reviews
Nushka
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Helpful Review 7  
Wild night flowers
How does Serge Lutens do it, conjuring such bright light contrasting with darkness in his creations?
He speaks of the nuances of black in his (very few) interviews, and his perfumes are exactly that - nuances of darkness.

Fils de joie is a bright explosion, blinding like the sun. Heavy and huge jasmine blossoms weighing down the branches, and swarms of bees and butterflies attracted by the sweet nectar dripping from the hearts of the flowers.
The day passes in drunken euphoria, and lo - the sun has set, and it is dark. Yet the flowers are blooming even more, white spots against a dark background, like constellations or fireworks.

There is a slight cosmetic tone (probably from the ylang-ylang), but the honey (more like beeswax) counterbalances it. It's never too clean, or too pretty. It's *real*.

I am at a loss as to how and where to wear this beautiful fragrance. Pagan celebrations of old come to mind - equinox, beginning of spring, celebrating being one with Nature.It is festive and it is wild, and it should be worn with a flower garland in your hair and nothing else.
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PetitePinup

26 Reviews
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Helpful Review 4  
Sultry, sensual Serge (+layering tips)
I know Iinear and /or simple fragrances are often labelled "boring", or even "bad quality" - undeservedly so. A very small pyramid, or an immediate feel for how you'll smell within minutes, doesn't say anything about the scent, the ingredients, lasting power, or how the fragrance'll make you feel. Not to mention the fact plenty perfumes that dó develop, or use a wide variety of notes in 3 tiers, end up smelling cheap or bad. Or they miss projection and longevity. Besides, I'm sure we've all known that one particular perfume that smells amazing in the opening, only to develop into a dry-down that misses your favorite accord. All reasons not to put down fragrances that lack a multitude of steps.

This Lutens, another Sheldrake creation, is a perfect example of both simple and linear. It doesn't change much, and the scent is quite straightforward from the start. The opening is short, and as soon as you hit the heart, you'll know what the dry down gives you. And, in effect, all the hours to come that Fils de Joie will be wafting of off your skin.

The fragrance opens with a full bouquet of smooth Jasmine flowers and a flirty hint of ylang-ylang. It's a heady mix, promising the sensuality I've read about. Imagine enjoying a warm evening on the balcony of a Greek apartment. You're completely relaxed after a day of culture sniffing and swimming under the sun, lounging in a cushioned chair. The warm air caresses your skin like a lover. You close your eyes and feel a soft breeze stirring the air, moving the bell shaped flowered bushes surrounding the grounds of the building. The delicious sweet, heady scent of night blooming jasmine wafts up and it's as if you're lying in a field full of blossoming flowers.

Then you remember the delicious dessert you had at dinner, how warm, rich honey drizzled off your spoon. Soon the sultry jasmine mixes in with the warm, thick honey and you fall asleep dreaming satisfying dreams...

Thàt's what you'll be projecting when wearing Fils de Joie: Fields of (night) blooming jasmine and a luscious, strong honey- dipped ylang-ylang on a clean musk that's not really perceived but merely makes sure everything stays sweet and full, not indolic. It's a scent that makes you inhale deep and often. It's heavy and rich, heady and sultry. Sweet, but utterly mature in its sensuality. While relatively simple, for me this Lutens is the ultimate mix of sophistication and carnality.

Usually a floral-musk doesn't last on me all that long. Three hours tops, with meagre projection. That certainly isn't the case here. Based on my week of wearing I can conclude we have an arm-length+ projection, going into intimate after several hours, a 10 to 12hr longevity, with a small scent trail. I did become anosmic quite fast, but the compliments from my environment told me it was still there. During the night I often noticed a delicious scent drifting upwards from my cleavage. Spraying/ dabbing around the heart works really well.

Because FdJ is definitely strong directly after initial application, a multitude of dabs (more than 10 on dry skin, more than 5 on normal/ oily) will choke everyone out. Also be careful with re-use; If you also get anosmic, check first. Reapplication might not be necessary to begin with.

[DAB, not spray]
Maybe you've noticed I used the word "dab"? That's with good reason. Serge Lutens delivers bottles with a regular screw cap - atomiser seperately [100ml bought in Oct 23]. I initially tested with a dab on my pulse and top of my hand (later on all the regular pulse points). However, being so enamoured with the fragrance I added the atomiser the next day. After all, dabbing uses up more and can cause accidental spilling (FdJ is bloodred juice, so however you wear it, be careful of clothes!).

And thus my second wear was applied with a spray, as is normal with most edp's. This is the part where I understood why one of the reviews below stated "this fragrance is meant to be dabbed". The first three hours after using the atomiser I suddenly hated this fragrance! The spray gave me a strong musk that was absolutely disgusting. Think a throat-scratchy chalky smell mixed with a very-there saliva-ish note. While the saliva scent disippated after 45 minutes, the rest of the nasty musk stayed, and swallowed the otherwise warm & sweet Jasmine whole for the most part.

Worse: the honeyed ylang that elevates the jasmines to its heady addictive sensual aroma in both heart & dry-down now gives... urine. Actual morning - I drank too little water- piss. And even though the dirty musk is mostly gone at hour 2, the urine smell remains strongly for at least a full hour after that. After 3- 3.5 hours the fragrance loses some strength overall, and it's then that we - slowly but steadily - go towards a similar-to-dab dry down. A softer, less projecting dry down, but at least you no longer smell like morning piss and bad breath.

I tested both dab & spray multiple times and each time I got the same result (thank heavens I didn't need to go somewhere). I'm utterly shocked and confused. The manner of application shouldn't influence the scent that much, right? If I hadn't been extra careful with my first test - and hadn't realised I'd read about it - I would've only sprayed as usual and then gotten rid of a perfume I would normally love. It's why I put it out here for others. Don't like it when sprayed? DAB!

When used correctly for your skin, you can expect a sweet and rich fragrance that can be used in a large part of the year. Fils de Joie doesn't need to be delegated to the cold weather shelves just because of its sweetness (nor solely to a woman's vanity!). I think it will definitely shine in lower temperatures, though I also expect it can still easily be worn in spring and summer - as long as it isn't too warm and you adapt the amount of sprays/dabs. The combination of notes makes it a rather "VavaVoom" concoction, meaning that the majority of perfume wearers (not me. I prefer to feel sexy on the daily *grin*) probably keeps it for a romantic date, going out and (other) special occassions. It'll also be perfect to boost confidence in social and business events.

No matter how and when you'll use it, this fragrance will be a love for anyone with Jasmine and Ylang Ylang/ honey on the favourite notes list.

THREE TIPS for layering:
Layering gives multiple advantages: extra projection, better longevity, upping a note that isn't coming out, or you're sorely missing in the juice, or creating your own unique scent. Here are 3 simple mixing options to get you started. Layer FdJ with>>
1. A honey forward perfume like Scandal, or Shock-In-Scent by Police. It'll make it sweeter, and keep the honey longer.
2. A beeswax centered frag. Kim Kardashian's Pure Honey for example, though perhaps Dreamhouse Ikiryo Bees and Butterflies is an option too, will make Fils de Joie even more sensual and rich, as long as both fragrances mostly give you a dark honey- real beeswax scent. Extra longevity guaranteed too.
3. YSL Libre Intense, or its stronger on vanilla-dupe Golden Decade (Zara), will kick the jasmine into the next galaxy and offer a slight extra with the orange blossom, vanilla - and if strong on your skin (not on mine) - lavender. Be careful, because both project rather strongly.

Enjoy!
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ScentNebula

18 Reviews
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Helpful Review 2  
An opulent, floral-heavy Nag Champa
Here in Australia, we have a lot of “2 dollar shops” which sell a wide variety of inexpensive goods that often include Eastern spiritual items, such as Buddha statues and Indian incenses. I am not sure what incense or essential oil blend is responsible, but there is a very recognisable and beautiful scent that pervades these shops. Nag Champa is probably the most well-known incense blend of this kind, but there are many different formulations and the one I am thinking of is quite specific. In any case, when I smelled Fils de Joie, I was immediately reminded of this specific kind of incense. Sweet and rich in complex narcotic florals, with a smooth, smoky and balsamic undertone. In fact, I couldn’t ask for a better imitation of Nag Champa. This is absolutely perfect to me: not too smoky that it obscures the brighter floral aspects, but uncompromising in its depth. I have a body wash that’s actually INTENDED to smell like Nag Champa, and I still think Fils de Joie is more true to the nature of the incense.
Fils de Joie is also a POWERHOUSE. Often when I’m testing fragrances I find that I need to wave my arms around to catch the sillage, or worse, repeatedly stick my nose into my wrist to smell anything. No such problem here - I can smell this fragrance on myself easily while just sitting and minding my own business. I used just one spray per wrist, and I can say that I did not feel that it was intrusive despite being so strong, but perhaps that’s just because I love the smell so much. Meanwhile, I found that the musky drydown lasted into the next day - I thought it had all gone, then went to was my wrists to clean them for testing another fragrance and smelled it again!
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Oriane

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Oriane
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Have Not We Met Before?
Jasmine and ylang-ylang are two of my favourite floral notes, so I was eager to try Fils de Joie. I have only worn it once thus far, but my first impressions are as follows.

Whilst clove/carnation is not a listed note, the opening is a MASSIVE jasmine/ylang-ylang/peppery clove bomb. It smells festive and seductive to my nose. Perhaps the festive feeling is the "joie." The jasmine with a little help from the ylang-ylang creates the seduction.

I think FdJ is unisex, and, it has a definite old school vibe that personally I love. It reminds me of several fragrances I have enjoyed over the years including Caron's Nuit de Noel, Estee Lauder's Spellbound, a little of Bijan's Bijan, albeit not nearly as opulent and plush as Bijan, and not at all a little of Dana's Tabu. Whoever is the perfumer, s/he seems to have definitely taken a lesson or two from Tabu. Oh, yes, Nuit de Noel, Bijan, Spellbound, and Tabu are all FdJ's ancestors in my opinion.

In the top notes FdJ also has whatever it is in Parfumerie Generale's L'Ombre Fauve that "catches" in my throat. Could it be fur?? Then, as FdJ settles on my skin the gorgeous, seductive night blooming jasmine is definitely the star followed very, very closely by the warm, sweet ylang-ylang. I do not detect musk, thankfully. Musk is a tricky note for me. I like it if it is done very well as Lutens does it in MKK, but so often it is not done nearly so well; consequently, I generally avoid musk-prominent fragrances. Musk here must be a quiet supporter of the other notes.

Projection and sillage are stellar for the first hour and a half. Then, FdJ settles down a bit, but it continues to perform well. It is far from a mere skin scent 2 hours into the dry down, and I could still smell it quite distinctly, albeit with my nose to my arm, 18 hours after first application. I have not had any other Lutens give me this level of longevity before, but most of my bottles came from grey market sellers such as Fragrancenet, whilst this bottle came from Lutens directly. This could very well be death by jasmine, babies, but what a way to go!!!

Who would have worn this? Hmm, given the glamorous, festive, and seductive nature of FdJ, I can imagine old Hollywood sirens such as Marlene Dietrich, Hedy Lamarr, Ava Gardner, and Yvonne De Carlo would have worn this fragrance in another day and time. (Somehow to me FdJ seems more apropos to brunettes and red heads than to blondes.)

This is a lovely jasmine fragrance for Winter and the holiday season. I would say it is more of a dressy, evening fragrance worn to impress and to seduce. If you adore jasmine and ylang-ylang, and if spicy carnation/clove does not bother you, this might be full bottle worthy for you. FdJ is not groundbreaking; I have met many similar fragrances throughout my perfume journey. However, it is a very nice fragrance that is probably full bottle worthy for any jasmine worshipper who is not bothered by clove/carnation.

Fragrance: 7.5/10
Projection: 10/10 for the first few hours.
Sillage: 101/0 for the first few hours.
Longevity: 10/10

(Can anyone confirm who is the perfumer?)
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NicheOnlyNicheOnly 5 days ago
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Opens bubblegum/sweet yellow floral. The drydown features a prominent patchouli, making for a spicy-vegetal scent with floral nuances.
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ScentNebulaScentNebula 4 months ago
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Smells exactly like the kind of opulent incense pervading shops selling Asian goods. A floral-heavy Nag Champa. Stunning
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PetitePinupPetitePinup 7 months ago
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1st impression: what's that delicious smell? Moi! Sniff-gasp-sniff-gasp. Best blind buy in ages, thx to all reviews below #huggingmy100ml
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