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Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by Omnipotato | Perfume Discussions
...Apicius it seems to me that there are only 7 sub-categories within "Oriental notes" and all of them can be re-classified in other categories. Some of them...
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Apicius
4 months ago
Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by SebastianM | Perfume Discussions
...experience? If there were people who were offended by it, I would mostly think they were making a categorical mistake.As should be clear from what @Apicius said about the fragrance hierarchy on Parfumo, there is also a great difference between the classes of perfume that would be officially classified as...
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Apicius
4 months ago
Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by Apicius | Perfume Discussions
...Apicius it seems as though @Cardea got to the crux of the issue and that "oriental" in English and German not only mean different things, they are used in...
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Apicius
4 months ago
Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by Cardea | Perfume Discussions
...would assume this person would be highly irritated if he/she was called „oriental“. Most of them would likely either think the same as Apicius in the opening statement („Improve your geographical knowledge!“) or as I mentioned, they would find it just weird using the term „oriental“...
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Apicius
4 months ago
Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by Omnipotato | Perfume Discussions
...Apicius it seems as though @Cardea got to the crux of the issue and that "oriental" in English and German not only mean different things, they are used in...
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Apicius
4 months ago
Politically incorrect fragrance notes?
by Apicius | Perfume Discussions
...Parfumo has been asked by a user to remove the term „Oriental“ from the fragrance notes database and replace it with the term „ambery“. This proposal goes back to an intiative promoted by the British Society of Perfumers to ban the word „Oriental“. They see it as „outdated, and in some contexts, offensive“.https://bsp.org.uk/wp-content/...https://www.perfumerflavorist....I would like to open the discussion of this topic with our statement. Please feel free to join in, we are curious to learn about your opinions!At Parfumo, many people are volunteering in creating the world’s most complete fragrance data base with the most precise fragrance notes. The note „amber“ is already very difficult to handle. In some languagues –such as German – it has two different meanings: amber resin and ambergris (glandular secretions of a whale). This can make research complicated since sometimes our sources are not precise on it. Now we are going to face further confusion, and we are not happy about that.As for now, we arenot planning any changes in the fragrance notes database.The terms „Orient“and „Oriental“ are used differently in different parts of the world. In my country (Germany) the Orient roughly extends from Morocco to Afghanistan. Thus, an Oriental fragrance contains notes typically used in the Arab perfume tradition. I have learned that in the USA and maybe other places, it is common to include India and Asia in these terms - an ignorance, that indeed may be perceived as offensive in some contexts. So, instead of imposing a new worldwide social taboo, can we please work on improving the geographical knowledge in the USA?At the moment, we see many new users coming over from Fragrantica. They complain about homophobic incidents there. I see the proposal of changing the database in this context of having a „safe space“ for everybody. As a German gay man, I would like to state my personal attitude towards this wish:When I had my coming out back in 1982, there were discussions on how we should call ourselves. At the end, we all agreed on the German term „schwul“. At that time, this was an extremely derogative word, and you wouldn’t find it in the dictionary. Today, it is not. „Schwul“ comes from „schwül“ and refers to the discomfort of hot and humid weather. „Schwul“ is exactly what we are since we sometimes cause such discomfort to some heterosexual men. We have come a long way from criminal prosecution in the 1960ies to formal legal equality today. We can take pride in what we have achieved by simply coming out as „schwul“ - but we would not have achieved much by politely asking society not to use rude and offensive words on us. Maybe, other people can learn from us?Gay men in Germany took an offensive term away from the haters and are continuing to do so. I am not willing to grant any song, any fashion, any perfume, or any fragrance note to those who hate. We should all work on giving neutral meanings to formerly offensive terms, and not vice versa.Denouncing formerly neutral terms such as „Oriental fragrance“ as offensive is a trap. It feeds the haters with new words that they can use. And even worse, it can mark those who continue to use these terms in good will as offenders.I think it is clear that we will not allow hate speech on Parfumo. On the other side, we have to ask you for tolerance towards each other, even if you read something that may occur politically incorrect to you. People are different, and not everybody is eloquent or educated enough, or just willing to obey to the latest social standards that somebody has announced.
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Apicius
4 months ago
What are your favourite Cheapie fragrances
by Apicius | Perfume Discussions
...Tabac Original After Shave or Pre Shave (The Cologne and EdT are a bit different)
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ExUser
4 months ago
Jazz by YSL - a flee market find! Jazz (1988) (Eau de Toilette) - Yves Saint Laurent
by Apicius | Perfumes & Brands
...Some BigBand Jazz, some New Orleans Style, then Louis Armstrong and Billie Holliday. It is a nice present!
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Apicius
21.10.2022
Jazz by YSL - a flee market find! Jazz (1988) (Eau de Toilette) - Yves Saint Laurent
by Apicius | Perfumes & Brands
...A glimpse back to the 80ies - a Jazz vinyl record as a promotional gift for the launch of the perfume Jazz.I wonder who the first owner was, and on what occasion he had received this record.
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Apicius
21.10.2022
What is your favorite vetiver fragrance?
by Apicius | Perfumes & Brands
...Royall Vetiver - simple but good!Grey Vetiver EdT (Tom Ford)Vetiver Exreme (Guerlain)Vétiver (Annich Goutal 1985), discontinued
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Vmaster
08.09.2022
Official list of all moderators / officials
by DonVanVliet | Parfumo Community
...the following moderators take care of Parfumo.You can contact them if you have any questions or problems.Apicius - Moderation, fragrance databaseCryptic - Moderation, parfumo.comDonVanVliet - Development, ModerationEinfachich - Moderation, parfumo.deElysium...
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DonVanVliet
02.06.2020
Ambroxan bomb
...I think that Ambroxan is very present in Agar Musk by Ramón Monegal. This is a very tart fragrance and probably not for everybody.A highly recommendable alternative to Sauvage is Bottega Veneta pour Homme Eau de Toilette.It may not have Ambroxan listed but I think it follows the same approach and style.
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Pole123
29.09.2019
Ultra-Expensive Perfumes
by AFreimann | Perfumes & Brands
...Apicius:I have a simple rule. I don't pay more than what Guerlain asks for their best and most expensive perfumes.I do not pay twice as much for a...
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Cryptic
21.08.2018
Random thoughts on Reviews
by MiaTrost | Parfumo Community
...blog post on How To Write a Good Perfume Review I believe to be a fabulous reference, defining some very pertinent guide line. Excellent synopsis, Apicius!...
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MiaTrost
14.11.2017
pay to get review published?
by ScentFan | Parfumo Community
...Reunited with long lost perfumes! Now that sounds like heaven. Yes, I see it doesn't happen here and let me add my thanks again to Apicius and the other volunteers who run parfumo, it's big asset being the exhaustive database with a permanent collection of reviews, as... and the other volunteers who run parfumo, it's big asset being the exhaustive database with a permanent collection of reviews, as Apicius states. Over time, I do plan to transfer my sniff fest reviews there, expanded.Cryptic:Perfume and death? Interesting topic. I hope the hereafter...
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Fhaldara
12.01.2016
pay to get review published?
by Pipette | Parfumo Community
...for different reasons. Facebook is for family and "friends" and generally a photo vanity fair.Perfume sites are informative and a gathering place. Apicius said it well for the commercial reasons to simply run a successful website. We as consumers, fellow enthusiasts for perfumes and general internet...
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Fhaldara
08.01.2016
pay to get review published?
by Apicius | Parfumo Community
...As soon as a site on the net starts growing and gets more traffic, the costs increase as well. More traffic, less speed, and so you need a better server. At this point, webmasters have to decide if they want to make a profession out of their hobby. If so, they need a business model that includes an income for the webmaster. You will need lots of ads, and / or make the users pay for what the site offers.Parfumo is run by volunteers, including the webmaster. For me, this is the main difference to Fragrantica and Basenotes. It allows Parfumo to have a focus on the user, not on the income in the first place. The costs of Parfumo are covered by the user's donations plus a few Google ads that are only displayed to the not-logged-in users.Parfumo ows its existence to a happy coincidence: a gifted web developer who took interest in perfume, and in running a perfume community site. If you look at areas of interest other then perfume you find that the possibilities to build a good site are very much limited by the technical capabilities of the respective enthusiasts. The opportunities to say something substancial and get noticed are very much limited. You can drop a few words in a Facebook group - that will be out of sight for the public within hours. Or you can go to Wordpress and Blogspot and create your own page. But then you may find that your page will be listed as no. 7,234,234 at Google statistics.Some people manage to successfully set up a forum with a standard software. But once their forum is running for a few years they don't have the capabilities to migrate its content to a new and better solution. Many forums on the net look ugly and outdated nevertheless the contributions deserve a better presentation. What I appreciate here is that my contributions will not be valid only for a few hours or days. Even my oldest reviews are read, and I still do get answers to perfume reviews that I wrote some years ago. It makes sense to me to put some effort into a review if I know that the result will be permanent, like a good book.
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Fhaldara
08.01.2016
What makes a perfume more suitable for young people?
by Apicius | Perfumes & Brands
...I do not agree any longer with the statement that perfume is not gender- or age-related. Even though the perfume industry does not explicitely say who a new perfume is aimed at, they are well aware of their targeted audience.Sense of smell and sense of taste are closely related to each other, and both seem to change during a person's life. Most children and teenagers have a sweet tooth. A teenager can feed upon a huge amount of jelly bellies that the same person would find nauseating some years later. Ask a teacher about the pupil's perfumes and you might hear him or her ranting about perfume sweets like Joop! Homme, One Million, Le Mâle and their cheaper copies (usually overapplied).
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Jumbotron
11.10.2015
New Perfume Company
by Apicius | Parfumo Research
...Dorothy, it is easier for the team if you add all perfumes of the respective brand that are still missing.One proposal for each fragrance is needed.
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DorothyGrace
25.09.2015
Abstinence - I miss my smellz
by Pipette | Parfumo Community
...self enjoying your vast array of perfumes. The little baby/embryo/fetus has something to say now and you should heed his/her little voice ... like Apicius said above. Best wishes, young mom. Enjoy...
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Briarthorn
25.09.2015
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