...:lol: For you anytime, Cincy.

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...Sorceress, I hardly know any of your truly impressive collection .. well, here I go.Favourite: Mon Parfum by Paloma PicassoLeast fav: Fancy Nights by Jessica Simpson

...Cryptic:Dulcemio:I just realized, I don't like six packs. They're like weird rows of skin lumps. :lol:I'm not crazy about them either, D. Does that make us weirdos?Girls, what's not to like about them?

..."Python for Men" could be right up your alley.

...Yet, your accompanying emoticon, Tnahowru, nailed it. :D

...Dulcemio:.. just doesn't sound as French as "excellent sillage," does it? :D Agreed. :D OT: In German a mobile phone is a 'Handy' - sounds very English, doesn't it? :wink:

...Tnahowru:Now that is weird.Huh? World Cup induced football (soccer) mania or the Tarantula Zone? :D

...Without any reliable information, why not ask Guerlain themselves?

...How about extending the cats and dogs thread to sneak in some horses, Cryptic? À propos Lipizzaner, did you know the first woman to be admitted to the Spanish Riding School of Vienna was in 2008?~~~My photo of the day:

...You might enjoy the BBC documentary on perfume, Pipette. They cover Brazil in their episode 3 - The Smell of Future: http://youtu.be/YVX31Iul1Uw

...Great rhyme, Cryptic.

...Exactly how I understand sillage as well, supposed to be a combination of diffusion and volume. However, as Triffid rightly pointed out, its literal meaning differs, which has been discussed in this thread. Hence, I would argue it not only captures performance aspects imprecisely but also is ambiguous.Triffid:I actually like those tighter definitions, they make sense to me.So do I. :) Sleuth:Where did you get those official publications?I am not sure I understand your question. Do you mean where to acquire the books I mentioned above?

...Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful.~ Ann Landers

...Entering perfumista territory some years ago, I learned that two criteria capture a perfume's performance: longevity/tenacity and sillage. Clearly, time and distance are the two dimensions we are interested in, when evaluating performance.Calkin and Jellinek (1994) define the following performance criteria, which have become standard in the fragrance industry:Impact is an immediate olfactory sensation and is a measure of the intensity of a perfume in the first moments after application, e.g., when sniffing a perfume from a blotter or right after its application onto the skin.Diffusion refers to the efficacy of a perfume at some distance from the source, representing how fast a fragrance radiates in space and permeates into the surrounding environment.Volume is the effectiveness of a perfume over distance, sometime after application.Tenacity is the ability of a fragranced mixture to retain its characteristic odour during the dry down stage. It is a performance index that measures the persistence of a fragrance for long times after its application but near the evaporating source, e.g., how long the perfume lasts on skin after applying it. Lit.: Calkin and Jellinek (1994), Perfumery, Practice and PrinciplesTeixeira et al. (2013), Perfume Engineering, Design, Performance & Classification Sillage – an undifferentiated layman term? Quite some fragrances feature excellent diffusion and tenacity but are moderate or even low in volume. Sillage, however, does not capture this time-dependent aspect of a perfume's presence over distance and therefore I increasingly view it as an insufficient term. My, albeit limited, discussions of this topic with perfumers revealed that sillage, in the context of perfumery, is an unknown term which seems to be primarily used by perfume bloggers and on perfume fora. Who would have thought? Yet, it obviously exists in perfume lingua. For example, Oxford Dictionaries define sillage as "[t]he degree to which a perfume’s fragrance lingers in the air when worn". What are your thoughts on its usefulness as opposed to diffusion and volume?

...The Happi article Ms. Erickson refers to states "that the Commission is planning to ban, in its original form, oak moss and tree moss". That is not exactly precise. So, for now I cannot confirm Ms. Erickson's understanding that this implies the use of low (chloro-)atranol oakmoss and tree moss won't be prohibited. Will try to clarify this.Actually the recent Reuters article, Perfume industry braces for tough new EU rules, is the first to mention consumer associations, which the Happi magagize seems to recycle.

...Laurie Erickson (Sonoma Scent Studio) reports that apparently "the EU has decided, at least for now, to continue to allow the low atranol version of oakmoss and tree moss while only banning moss that has not had the allergens atranol and chloroatranol reduced. Most perfumers (myself included) already switched to the low atranol version of oakmoss years ago when that standard was first set by IFRA, so there will be no change for us. IFRA not only requires the use of the low atranol type but also places a limit on the percentage of use of the low atranol type. Even at the IFRA level it is useful though, and I have the low atranol natural moss in many of my perfumes. I am glad to hear they are not banning it."See: EU Regulations Update — Good NewsIf that is true indeed, the complete ban is off the table and a limit will be implemented instead, at least in the interim.

...That a wonderful clip indeed, Apicius.Madkat:.. Looking at here expression I always think "It doesnt smell that bad" :D Good one, Madkat!Alice Ernestine Prin, aka Kiki de Montparnasse, by Man Ray (1926) vs. Jean Paul Gaultier's Classique campaign by Jean-Baptiste Mondino (1999).

...70th anniversary of D-Day and Miss Liberty showered with roses.For all horse fans:I am far from a stunt like this. But I could see myself along these lines:

...Apicius:So, native speakers, can we use the word projection instead of sillage? Would this be an acceptable alternative?To add my two pence and ignoring the fact that I am not a native speaker either, I would like to point out that neither projection nor sillage are accurate terms.In perfume lingua a measure of the distance over which the fragrance is noticeable soon after application is usually called diffusion. Whereas volume is the effectiveness over distance, some time after application (as opposed to tenacity, which is perceived near the source). :twisted: