...Oh, there IS civet in it? That would explain why I haven't tried it. I had looked at the notes over at F, since they tend to be more complete, and it isn't listed. And I could swear it wasn't listed here either, but today I see it is there. Can we assume the current formulation contains the synthetic? I'd have no problem with that.

...And please do share more photos of that cute baby! Can always use some of those to brighten the day.

...Sorceress,Your brother passing so young must've been tough, tough, tough for you and your family. Heart disease can be so cruelly stealthy. My condolences.

...Clue:A crimson bird of peace,subjected to forced labor.(Way too easy for this crowd, I know, sorry.) :)

...Ooh, what happens on spa day?

...I enjoy these informative posts of yours, Epimedes. I need to try Jicky. For some reason I had in my head that it contained civet, so I've never tried it, but apparently it doesn't.

...Oh, sorry! I forgot about giving a new clue. I'll be back soon, or if anyone wants to sub for me, please feel free! :)

...Good one, Cryp.This arrived serendipitously in my mailbox today. Will wonders never cease.“Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” ---Mark Twain

...Dulcemio:It's like we're speaking different languages. And you continue to attribute POV's to me that I don't have.Equal recognition how? By me teaching myself to see and smell feminine (to me) things as neutral instead and not identify these things as such to others? To what end? I enjoy experiencing femininity and masculinity in many forms. How does that negatively impact the legal rights of an intersex person? Should we paint everything green and red because some people are color-blind?I think your heart is in the right place, but if you haven't understood me yet, you're not gonna. Dulce out.Are the two of you ladies secretly the same person? You're both equally good at missing the point altogether. For all of your intelligence and knowledge of non-cisgender issues and posting of links, you continue to respond to things I did not say, or even imply, and ignore the things I have said. And have yet to offer any semblance of an answer to the simplest of questions (above). Good luck to both of you. And please have the last word (she says facetiously).

...OMG, this has reached a level of absurdity I could not have imagined. "Inherently white supremacist"??? Are you out of your mind???Yes my dear that IS definitely an opinion and if my pointing that out compels you to take your toys and go home, I guess you do what you gotta do.By the way, I had an intersex co-worker in college who was extremely confused about his identity. He had very supportive friends and family, but still struggled within himself. One of the words he used about himself was "confused."Perhaps the dictionary may be of assistance. In this context, confuse means "to perplex or disconcert; to throw off." So yeah, confused by one's body, that's very accurate.

...A bunch of Body Time fragrances and one Carla Fracci named after Shakespeare plays? :D"Romeo & Juliet""Tempest""Much Ado About Nothing""As You Like It""A Midsummer Night's Dream""Hamlet"

...It's like we're speaking different languages. And you continue to attribute POV's to me that I don't have.Equal recognition how? By me teaching myself to see and smell feminine (to me) things as neutral instead and not identify these things as such to others? To what end? I enjoy experiencing femininity and masculinity in many forms. How does that negatively impact the legal rights of an intersex person? Should we paint everything green and red because some people are color-blind?I think your heart is in the right place, but if you haven't understood me yet, you're not gonna. Dulce out.

...I'd like to think that I'm name neutral. :wink: I looked past the kitschy little name "Fancy Nights" didn't I?But I do admit that single word names that sound exotic or literary are attractive to me. Some examples:"Theorema""Coromandel""Samsara""Shalimar""Chergui"

...As I suspected, "incendiary" is just shorthand for "I disagree."You seem to be arguing against things I didn't say. That makes it difficult to respond.At the very least, I don't think we are understanding each other, but I'll make one last attempt. After this I will agree to disagree.In short, I disagree with the notion that the "gender binary" is inherently harmful (after all, the entire planet is male and female, the universe based on yin and yang, opposite but complementary forces) or that insisting on gender neutrality is good for anyone. The appreciation of differences between masculine and feminine works for the majority. Why should that change for us because a minority doesn't fit nicely into that dynamic? Why can't their dynamic live side-by-side with ours? And "granting equality"? What does that even mean in this context? You're taking my comfort with the "gender binary" and trying to turn it into something wrong and unevolved. The natural world is not gender neutral.And if the common perceptions of masculinity and femininity are so repugnant to you, why would you even join this discussion to begin with? You made what some might call an incendiary comment about the "gender binary" and now seem genuinely appalled that anyone might disagree with you. You're asking for a level of inclusiveness that you yourself don't seem willing to exend to others.

...Well, I guess if the pets and the family momentos were already secured in the car and I had the opportunity to grab some perfume, I would take the ones I love that are irreplaceable because they're discontinued. A couple that come to mind are:"Samsara" vintage"Dior Addict (2002)"

...MRoth,By the way, it was your comments that introduced a political aspect to this topic, remember?"I find the gender binary as tiresome in perfumery as everywhere else, but I'll play." But I replied as I did because political correctness and the culture of inclusiveness often get taken to an illogical extreme (IMO), which I perceive as tiresome, and my opinionated self just can't keep my mouth shut.My most well-read and insightful friend is a 60-something year old retired attorney and a gay man, who once said something to the effect that acceptance and inclusiveness aren't about pretending we're all the same, it's about acknowledging our differences and deciding when they are and aren't important. I couldn't agree more. So when young people start lecturing on the evils of gender oriented perceptions, it just rubs the wrong way. IMO, some things just ain't broke and don't need fixin'.

...WolfM:Many years ago, the dumbest monkey has never learn to climb trees.And thus began the history of mankind.Ahahaha! Good one!

...Incendiary? Really? Which part?I thought I was just stating the obvious.

..."There are admirable potentialities in every human being. Believe in your strength and your youth. Learn to repeat endlessly to yourself, 'It all depends on me.'"---Andre Gide

...So, this question is actually based on an experience you had? I'm guessing your house was on fire? If you prefer not to explain, I'll understand, but before I start answering your hypothetical question, I'd like to know if condolences are in order. Losing one's home is a traumatic, heart-breaking thing.