...@ DutchSniffer: No, not even the mindset is similar.I understand the anger about the postal rules, but this sort of comparison is an absolute no-go, at least in my country and I suppose everywhere else, too. Please do not use this kind of comparison.

...More music for perfume? Have a look at the same game on the German Parfumo: http://www.parfumo.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15577

...Greysolon:This fragrance describes what that drum banging bunny will have to do when he finally runs out of power.Name the house and fragrance.Seems easy. It has to recharge: "Re-Charge Black Pepper" by Molton Brown

...So far, Parfumo is as mute as a fish, and I think we should change that!Which song or piece of music fits well to a specific fragrance?Suggestions, please!"Jaguar Women": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gT4OTYUS-c"Berlin" by Joop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGrmcNmCys"Aimez-Moi" by Caron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBnIqyFkcng"Vetiver" by Annick Goutal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyqU2FrWRps"Emporio Armani City Glam for Him": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usHFC_qW7d4"Cruel Gardénia": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSp3k4HLr8"Chanel N°5": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVGotpIxkGU"Azzaro pour Homme": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1VGoKBKR3I"Champs-Elysées" by Guerlain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9V-zUlrhEE

...This is very sad. Do these rules also apply to other distributors such as UPS and the like?

...Scentimental:I have Guerlain Vetiver Extreme, which I love because it has great longevity and sillage and now I find out it's been discontinued! I had better stock up on some back up bottles! :(Where did you find out? I am sure I have seen it lately at the Maison Guerlain parlour at KaDeWe in Berlin.

...I think I briefly tested Coup de Fouet and Tabac Blond on one of our regular perfume sampling meetings with Coriolon and Rivegauche. High quality but it didn't get me.

...Let's go on splitting hairs! :lol: If sillage is the wake or the trail of fragrance behind a wearer one would never be able to test it on one's own. How can we do this since we have our noses in our faces?So, to test the sillage of a perfume you would always have to find a volunteer who would go catwalking for you! :wink:

...Dulcemio:[i]I'm still not understanding why people can't just be expected to learn what sillage means in the context of perfume discussions, in the same way that one would need to learn new terms for any new hobby or specialized area of interest. :? Maybe a glossary of terms should be started? I think one or more of the other perfume sites has one.Oh, it is not a big deal. I think if you write a review it is just nice to have few words at hand that you can equally use for the same thing, that's all!

...Pipette:@ Apicius - Does not the word "Abstrahlung" imply deflection of something that touched the body from the outside ?Would the word "Ausstrahlung" be more accurate, as the perfume emanates from the skin to the immediate environment ?Well, technically seen, the pray of perfume hits the body and the body deflects it - thus "Abstrahlung" ?My intuition votes for the use of "Ausstrahlung".No, 'Abstrahlung' is nothing that comes from outside the body. Don't confuse it with 'Abstrahlen'. Originally, 'Abstrahlung' is used as a technical term. Leo.org gives the translations: emission, radiant emittance, radiant exitance, radiation. This word gives me the picture of invisible beams coming from a person's body caused by the perfume."Ausstrahlung" is also something different, it is less physical and rather means the aura or the charisma of a person, and translated to perfumes, it would apply to the character of a fragrance.

...DutchSniffer:Technically everyone here who distinguishes between the 2 words (sillage/projection) is right and I have no problem using sillage in English (with a French pronunciation).But what about German or Dutch? In Dutch it feels weird to say 'sillage' so I say 'projectie' or 'spoor'(Spur). What do Germans say?On the German Parfumo, 'Sillage' is very common. I sometimes use 'Projektion', but it is also common to speak about 'Abstrahlung' - emission.I am quite sure that the use of the term "Abstrahlung" has been created on the German Parfumo. So, maybe in English we could also use 'scent emission' or 'the emission of the fragrance'.

...Thanks for your review, Drseid.So after all, it seems we have found out that the English fougères are a bit rough whereas the french ones are a bit softer. And also, the relaunched Fougère Royal is very much different from its predecessor.

...We use the word sillage for the strength that a fragrance has when smelled not directly on skin, but some inches away from it.If a perfume makes you literally stand in the middle of a big cloud of fume we talk about a strong sillage whereas a low sillage means it is only detectable if you sniff directly at the skin where it was applied.I am not so content with this technical term since only perfume insiders will know it. I think, originally this technical term was used in nautics where it described the level of water displacement that a ship has.In my German reviews I sometimes use the word "Projektion" instead, and I wonder if "projection" would also be understood in English. To project something onto something is actually what sillage does since it transports the fragrance from the skin to the environment.So, native speakers, can we use the word projection instead of sillage? Would this be an acceptable alternative?

...Oh dear, I really missed this feature! :oops: Pipette, I will put a short note into the suggestions thread, so it won't get lost.

...Pipette:Maybe I am missing something but there does not seem to be on the International site a Help Section as it is established on the German site, that is to say: HilfeSimple questions can be entered into a box and the request is acknowledged, and the reply is later on e-mailed to the member.This feature is absolutely great. Do you have something like that here and I did not see it ??Pipette, did I miss something? :? Where is this help feature? I cannot find it. Can you give me the link?If somebody has a question, he or she can always post it somewhere in the forum, and it will take only minutes until there will be answers and support be several other users. This works fine, no need to change that.

...Pipette:@Apicius - you have a great way of diplomacy and make people relax. Thanks! :D

...I really like the Assistant and its statistics.Without the Assistant, I might have never found out that there is a difference between the fragrances I like the most and those fragrances that I actually wear the most often!

...Hayven: There will always be people who are willing to pay for the real thing, so I suppose you can't completely stop the harvesting.As the market increases, also the future of natural oud will be industrilised production, with planting these trees in farms.The result might be less diversification in natural oud oils, such as can be found on the few websites of the oud oil traders (Ensar Oud and others). Some of their oud oils are being destilled from a single tree, and sometimes they give you specifications or document the production process with photos.Oud tree farming cannot be achieved within a few years. I read that Ajmal founded an oud farm in India some 40 years ago, and by now, they should be able to make good money with it. Nevertheless, their "Dahn Oud Al Shams" spray, by comparison, is quite inexpensive compared to the offers of oud oils. I don't think that the quality is that much lower than the few oils I tested. Oud tree farming is not a bad thing, and it could bring some money to places where it is desperately needed. Maybe this is the future.

...20 perfumes - that's an easy task. If I would have to limit myself to 20 fragrances, I could really select the ones that are most important to me:#1 "Chamade Homme"#2 "Dahn Oudh Al Shams"#3 "L'Homme Sage"#4 "Arsène Lupin"#5 "Quasar"#6 "Rodier pour Homme"#7 "XPEC Original"#8 "Jaïpur Homme Fraîcheur Épicée"#9 "Vétiver" by Annick Goutal#10 "Vétiver de Frédéric"#11 "Fetish"#12 "Aventure"#13 "Utopian"#14 "L#Eau Neuve"#15 "Myrrhe & Délires"#16 "Guerlain Homme Pininfarina"#17 "Knize Two"#18 "Red Sea"#19 "Gli Odori"#20 "7 de Loewe"

...Oh, this is a highly interesting topic, and a lot can be said about this. Thanks for opening this discussion.The oud hype is of course a fashion trend, and if you look closely, you see that the whole thing is based on a lie.At first, by buying one of the numerous oud perfumes, nobody has to feel guilty about the alleged extinction of aloeswood trees in the rain forests - simply because there is no oud in the so-called oud perfumes at all. What we smell and identify as an oud note is a synthetic base, i.e. Black Agar Givco 215 by Givaudan, the aloeswood blend by Firmenich and possibly others. Ironically, the synthetic oud notes do not smell like oud. Instead, they smell reminiscent to - and, BTW, much better than - the synthetic substitutes that the Arab brands use in their less expensive "oud" fragrances. These substitutes, however, do not have too much in common with what I got to know as the smell of natural oud oil.The synthetic oud blends with their characteristic mustiness provide a certain romantic "Arab" image: the 1001night smell of harems, djinns that appear in a smelly must from the magic lantern, and the must of the orient in general. This is why we have the oud hype.Natural oud oils are also musty, but not in the first place. At first, they are warm woody notes the sort that could remind you of antique furniture. Depending on the origin and the production process, natural oud oils can differ a lot. The most complexity can be found at the beginning - in the head notes, if you want to see it like that. There are animalic, and even fecal notes. Especially Indian agarwood oil can have notes of Swiss Appenzeller or Gruyere cheese, also a biting acidity, and dark, earthy chocolate-like notes. In a Borneo oud oil, I discovered coniferous notes which most people would not link to Arabia. Another oil which seemed to be a bit bland gave me impressions of hemp and sisal. There is only one Western perfume where I found a discernible natural oud note so far: "Zafar" by Xejoff seems to contain a little bit of it. However, the price tag of well above 300 € makes clear why we do not find natural oud in the oud perfumes.If it comes to natural oud, there is no hype at all, and there will never be any. I did a sample giveaway of my "Dahn Oudh Al Shams" perfume spray which seems to contain only natural oud oil as the only fragrant ingredient. Nobody wrote a positive or even enthusiastic review. They more ore less disliked it, due to the fecal aroma, and only some found it interesting but stated that they would never wear it.It seems I am the only one here who likes natural oud oil! Back to the synthetic oud bases - very slowly, there are releases where the synthetic oud note is not placed into the centre but treated with discreetness as any other note. A very good example where this oud contributes something important without dominating the fragrance is Divine's new "L'Homme Infini" For details on natural oud oils, red my reviews under the brand oudh.co.uk.For a sample package of natural oud oils, have a look at http://www.ensaroud.com/